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Tuesday, October 16, 2012



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About Ovidius ~

"..The Love Books.." of Ovid..

(Kr. e. 43—Kr. u. 17)

1127   Amores, Medicamina Faciei Femineae, Ars Amatoria, Remedia Amoris ~

Publius Ovidius Naso (March 20, 43 BC – 17 AD) was a Roman poet known to the English-speaking world as Ovid who wrote on many topics, including love, abandoned women and mythological transformations. Ranked alongside Virgil and Horace as one of the three canonical poets of Latin literature, Ovid was generally considered a great master of the elegiac couplet. His poetry, much imitated during Late A...more


Amores ("The Loves")

Ovide and Corine, his lover from theAmores, painted by Agostino Carracci(1557–1602).

The Amores is a collection in three books of love poetry in elegiac meter, following the conventions of the elegiac genre developed by Tibullus and Propertius. The books describe the many aspects of love and focus on the poet's relationship with a mistress called Corinna..

Ars Amatoria ("The Art of Love")

Remedia Amoris ("The Cure for Love")

This elegiac poem proposes a cure for the love which Ovid teaches in the Ars Amatoria and is primarily addressed to men. The poem criticizes suicide as a means for escaping love and, invoking Apollo, goes on to tell lovers not to procrastinate and be lazy in dealing with love. Lovers are taught to avoid their partners, not perform magic, see their lover unprepared, take other lovers, and never be jealous. Old letters should be burned and the lover's family avoided. The poem throughout presents Ovid as a doctor and utilizes medical imagery. Some have interpreted this poem as the close of Ovid's didactic cycle of love poetry and the end of his erotic elegiac project..

Metamorphoses ("Transformations")

Engraved frontispiece of George Sandys’s 1632 London edition of Ovid's Metamorphoses Englished.

The MetamorphosesOvid's most ambitious and popular work, consists of a 15-book catalogue written in dactylic hexameter about the transformations in Greek and Roman mythology set within a loose mytho-historical framework..

Tristia ("Sorrows")

The Tristia consist of five books of elegiac poetry composed by Ovid in exile in Tomis. Book 1 contains 11 poems; the first piece is an address by Ovid to his book about how it should act when it arrives in Rome. 3 describes his final night in Rome..

Lost works

One loss which Ovid himself informs us of is the first five-book edition of the Amores from which nothing has come down to us. The greatest loss is Ovid's only tragedy, Medea, from which only a few lines are preserved..


- cutie story how Ovid gives advices "how to avoid to falling in love"..
 (Love's Remedy or The Cure for Love)

In this poem, Ovid offers advices and strategies to avoid being hurt by love feelings, or to fall out of love, with a stoic overtone. Such strategies include:

To leave ♥  your partner:
  • Trying to quit loving before the feeling becomes too important
  • Trying to be as busy as you can, e.g. with work
  • Traveling and trying to avoid familiar places that remind you of your relationship
  • Having many affairs, or at least another affair to forget the previous one
  • Trying to have sex in an unpleasant way
  • Focusing on the unpleasant body parts/physical flaws of the partner
  • Trying to focus on all unfortunate things that happen because of the relationship, such as material issues
  • Avoiding staying by yourself
  • Avoiding places where you can see couples.. 

L'Idylle, by William Bouguereau [1850] (Public Domain Image)  Sisyphus - (Greek legend) a king in ancient Greece who offended Zeus and whose punishment was to roll a huge boulder to the top of a steep hill



In the Amores, published about 18 BCE, Ovid portrays the evolution of an affair with a married woman named Corinna. It is unclear as to whether this is fictional or autobiographical, but it is obviously based on the experiences of a sophisticated loverThe Ars Amatoria, published about 1 BCE, is a guidebook for seduction; it includes many tips and tricks which would not be out of place in a modern dating manual, while giving intimate vignettes of daily life in Ancient Rome. The first two books are written from a male point of view; the last book, which was probably written at a later date, is addressed to women. It is believed that this work, which celebrates extramarital sex, was one of the reasons that Ovid was banished by the Emperor Augustus, who was attempting to promote a more austere morality..

In spanish: La obra es un manual para ayudar a los amantes desgraciados a recuperarse de las...See More

After leaving ♥  your partner:
  • Avoiding all contact with her and with her family and relatives
  • When explaining why you broke up, avoiding giving details
  • Trying to be as silent as you can on your relationship when it's over
  • If you know you are going to see your ex-partner again, avoid trying to look nice for the occasion
  • Forgetting about any chances in the future for the relationship to start again
  • Burning letters/portraits of your partner
  • Avoiding theatre plays or poetries idealizing the concept of love
  • Convincing yourself that you don't have any rival, to avoid jealousy. According to Ovid, jealousy is one of the main reason why people stay in love.
  • Avoiding to stop in front of the door of your ex partner's house, and picturing it as an awful place bringing only misfortune.
  • Avoiding certain kind of food
  • Avoiding drinking alcohol in moderation. Instead, do not drink at all or drink abusively..

La obra es un manual para ayudar a los amantes desgraciados a recuperarse de las...See More

In lieu of an abstract, here is a brief excerpt of the content:

// arguor obsceni doctor adulterii:
Didactic: Ovid's Ars Amatoria andRemedia Amoris <

Ovid Tristia 2.212
"..Ever since Augustus' extraordinary public acknowledgement of Ovid's didactic powers.. the poet's critics, adopting the role of defending him with, we can only assume, the best of intentions, have, to a quite remarkable degree, detracted from his achievement. Malcolm Heath (1985.254) bases his plea on a formal technicality: "Lucretius adopts the posture of one expounding and advocating the Epicurean philosophy, and that is precisely what he intends to achieve: philosophical persuasion. Ovid, equally, adopts in the Ars Amatoria the posture of one expounding and inculcating the principles of the art of seduction; but no one supposes that Ovid really wrote his poem in order to instruct the youth of Rome in that art." Heath cites the examples of Lucretius and Ovid to illustrate a distinction he makes between "formal" didacticism ("purporting to be intended to instruct") and "final" didacticism ("intended to instruct"). The subject of the Ars Amatoriais ostensibly amor, even arguably adulterium, but we are assured that the poem does not really, finally, intentionally teach it. Its very didactic form, apparently, may even act as a guarantee of that. Were the academic profession to apply this distinction with such disinterested rigour to its own activities, the result might -- just conceivably -- be somewhat disconcerting. However, the continuing stream of publications on Ovid's amatory didactic would seem to testify to a sturdy faith in the pedagogical effect, at least in respect of scholarly writings. Thus fortified (or perhaps not, for questions concerning the authority and truth claims of any pedagogical act cannot wholly be evaded), let us delve into what is involved in the question "..what) does the Ars Amatoria teach?"


Have you ever really loved ♥  a a woman/ Bryan Adams:

"To really love  a woman, to understand her
You gotta know her deep inside
Hear every thought, see every dream
An' give her wings when she wants to fly
Then when you find yourself lyin' helpless in her arms
You know you really love a woman..

..When you love ♥  a woman
You tell her, that she's really wanted
When you love a woman you tell her that she's the one
'Cuz she needs somebody
To tell her that it's gonna last forever..

And when you find yourself lyin' helpless in her arms
You know you really love ♥  a woman..

..When you love   a woman
You tell her that she's really wanted
When you love a woman you tell her that she's the one
'Cuz she needs somebody
To tell her that it's gonna last forever
So tell me have you ever really
Really, really ever loved a woman?.." 

The aim of the poem is to teach (mainly) young men how they can avoid idealizing the women they love and to procure assistance to them if love brings them despair and misfortune. Ovid states that suicides committed because of an unfortunate love ♥  feeling can be easily avoided by following these advices..

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